The Lost Will of the Late Pope John Paul II
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It is rumoured that the late Pope John Paul II's last will and testament may not have been read in its entirety due to the controversies within that may lay waste to the foundations of the Catholic Church. The lost portion of the last will and testament is rumoured to stipulate that his successor uphold the following values and set into motion:
Support for same-sex marriage.- Embrace openly gay parishioners.
- Eliminate priesthood celibacy.
- Allow priests to get married and have a spouse.
- Promote the use of contraceptives including "The Pill" and condoms.
- Ordain women as priests, bishops and, perhaps, Pope.
- Sanction euthanasia as a personal choice.
- Condone abortion.
- Increase inter-faith dialogue.
- Denounce homosexuality as a sin.
- Admit divorced and remarried Catholics to Holy Communion.
another point of view ...
I doubt if the Vatican would ever release such statements; so I can see why it was not read in it's entirety. I agree with some of the values, but others are even too extreme for me (like support for same-sex marriage or abortion. However, it's about time that the Catholic Church admits divorced and remarried Catholics to Holy Communion. You did good with the list. Thanks for putting the most controverial points together. I'll be sharing this with my church group this weekend.
- Steve
Pope John Paul 2 wasnt popular in good 'ole liberated-open minded Holland. When he came here in 1978, few Catholics showed up and there were demonstrations that lead to riots. The Dutch do not agree to his edicts such as banning contraceptions and him being infallible.
He was however very instrumental for the fall of communism where he started the road to democracy movements in his own homeland, poland. The democratic sentiments reached to its neighbors and the bigshot, russia... and the rest was history when the berlin wall fell.
But, I am skeptical with all organized religions. I prefer to look at all/any religion from the outside.
steve: you've found me out .. this is actually my 'wish list' of values i think the new pope should have (or at least consider!). yes, i know some of the values are way out there, but i thought, 'as long as i'm wishing .. why not dream the impossible?'
action starts with a dream, a thought.
the dutched pinay: i like your view of religions ... But, I am skeptical with all organized religions. I prefer to look at all/any religion from the outside ... i tend to be on the fringe of religion as well; however, i will comment on it, almost subvertly flirting with the idea of actually joining said occult just to have a better understanding of the fascination.
no one is infallible .. i do not subscribe to this view at all. yes, yes, the pope's hand was much needed in the political struggle to bring down communism .. the pope worked subversively for his homeland. for this, i look to him as an example of someone whose national pride did not wane even when he moved to vatican city.
i was influenced both by buddhism and catholism while growing up. mom is a garden-variety buddhist (we had plenty of tofu at every meal while growing up; i thought tofu was a food group in itself!), and dad was a sensible catholic. though the children were exposed to both eastern and western religions, we were never pawns in any holy wars as to which afterlife plain our souls would eventually reside: nirvana or paradise of eden. i would just be happy to do well in this plain of existence.
i'm sure this is, yet, another reason for why i gravitated to the comic book character karma.
I was raised a Catholic, and I think this post is very offensive. But, I do like your other posts so I will revisit your site again.
Nam, ever notice, politics and religion are the common source of fights (escalated to a fullblown war). These kind of subjects when held and practiced with blind passion and arrogance can push people and others into troubled waters. I respect all kinds of religions, its just that its not for me, I elect to stay out of it. Like you, I was born into a religion and have even tasted different varieties of them, which at a later point in my life, I made a decision to look into it objectively outside of the box. Many people criticize me for doign that. What gives? It's my life, not theres. All I request from these fervent believers (of whichever religion) is to respect people who have a different perspective from them. Forcing the issue is futile, and that's when trouble usually starts.
Well, with the votes in and the new pope named, I guess you can take the last will and testament of JP2 and frame it and wait another decade (or two). I, as a fallen away catholic, do not think Benedict XVI will do much in the way of liberalising the church, unfortunately.
I loved all the pomp and circumstance as a child and the mysterious language (this goes back to the days of latin masses), the celebrations were sensually hypnotising - the colours, the scent of incense, the darkness and light reflecting off the gold and silver chalices, candles and deeply colourful stained glass windows, the magnificent robes and sacred chanting. But, those were the days of simple faith and illusions.
It would be enjoyable to be able to recapture those experiences somehow, without having to give up one's hard-earned beliefs in order to do so.
I enjoyed your angel descriptions and your blog in general.
speak up!
I doubt if the Vatican would ever release such statements; so I can see why it was not read in it's entirety. I agree with some of the values, but others are even too extreme for me (like support for same-sex marriage or abortion. However, it's about time that the Catholic Church admits divorced and remarried Catholics to Holy Communion. You did good with the list. Thanks for putting the most controverial points together. I'll be sharing this with my church group this weekend.
- Steve
Jo Travels
Pope John Paul 2 wasnt popular in good 'ole liberated-open minded Holland. When he came here in 1978, few Catholics showed up and there were demonstrations that lead to riots. The Dutch do not agree to his edicts such as banning contraceptions and him being infallible.
He was however very instrumental for the fall of communism where he started the road to democracy movements in his own homeland, poland. The democratic sentiments reached to its neighbors and the bigshot, russia... and the rest was history when the berlin wall fell.
But, I am skeptical with all organized religions. I prefer to look at all/any religion from the outside.
Nam LaMore
steve: you've found me out .. this is actually my 'wish list' of values i think the new pope should have (or at least consider!). yes, i know some of the values are way out there, but i thought, 'as long as i'm wishing .. why not dream the impossible?'
action starts with a dream, a thought.
the dutched pinay: i like your view of religions ... But, I am skeptical with all organized religions. I prefer to look at all/any religion from the outside ... i tend to be on the fringe of religion as well; however, i will comment on it, almost subvertly flirting with the idea of actually joining said occult just to have a better understanding of the fascination.
no one is infallible .. i do not subscribe to this view at all. yes, yes, the pope's hand was much needed in the political struggle to bring down communism .. the pope worked subversively for his homeland. for this, i look to him as an example of someone whose national pride did not wane even when he moved to vatican city.
i was influenced both by buddhism and catholism while growing up. mom is a garden-variety buddhist (we had plenty of tofu at every meal while growing up; i thought tofu was a food group in itself!), and dad was a sensible catholic. though the children were exposed to both eastern and western religions, we were never pawns in any holy wars as to which afterlife plain our souls would eventually reside: nirvana or paradise of eden. i would just be happy to do well in this plain of existence.
i'm sure this is, yet, another reason for why i gravitated to the comic book character karma.
I was raised a Catholic, and I think this post is very offensive. But, I do like your other posts so I will revisit your site again.
Jo Travels
Nam, ever notice, politics and religion are the common source of fights (escalated to a fullblown war). These kind of subjects when held and practiced with blind passion and arrogance can push people and others into troubled waters. I respect all kinds of religions, its just that its not for me, I elect to stay out of it. Like you, I was born into a religion and have even tasted different varieties of them, which at a later point in my life, I made a decision to look into it objectively outside of the box. Many people criticize me for doign that. What gives? It's my life, not theres. All I request from these fervent believers (of whichever religion) is to respect people who have a different perspective from them. Forcing the issue is futile, and that's when trouble usually starts.
Well, with the votes in and the new pope named, I guess you can take the last will and testament of JP2 and frame it and wait another decade (or two). I, as a fallen away catholic, do not think Benedict XVI will do much in the way of liberalising the church, unfortunately.
I loved all the pomp and circumstance as a child and the mysterious language (this goes back to the days of latin masses), the celebrations were sensually hypnotising - the colours, the scent of incense, the darkness and light reflecting off the gold and silver chalices, candles and deeply colourful stained glass windows, the magnificent robes and sacred chanting. But, those were the days of simple faith and illusions.
It would be enjoyable to be able to recapture those experiences somehow, without having to give up one's hard-earned beliefs in order to do so.
I enjoyed your angel descriptions and your blog in general.
speak up!
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